Vacuum diagram for 4D56 turbo intercooled - does anyone have one?

SunNoFun

New Member
Hi All,

After reading a ton on this forum I joined a little while ago. I own two vehicles, neither a Delica but both with similar engines: see signature.

Well, the bottom line is that I want to understand how the vacuum lines work on the 2003 Mitsubishi Montero Sport. Does anyone have a vacuum diagram for the later engines and can actually explain it to me?

Backstory (if you can stomach to read it):
I bought the Mitsubishi Montero Sport (also called Shogun Sport in the UK and Pajero Sport in most of the rest of the world) with the engine running so badly that it would have been better if it hadn't run. The previous owners suffered from repeated scams and incompetence and out of emotional desperation sold it to me just so they wouldn't have to think about it any more. A sad and very real aspect of living in "paradise".

After initially diagnosing it I decided to buy quite a few parts from a UK supplier who specialises (sic) in Mitsubishi 4D56 and similar engines. I'm located in the Canary Islands and here you will pay 2 to 4 times what things cost in other places and it will be accompanied by absolute incompetence, free, at no charge. To upgrade to only mild incompetence costs even more. The people from the company in the UK were pleasant, competent, and their prices were good. They shipped out my parts quickly but, of course, between the spanish arm of fedex and a canary island company responsable for the customs paperwork intot he canary islands, the canary island customs agent left my documents sit unattended for 10 days until the shipper was about to return my shipment. And who would have had to pay for shipping three ways? Me, because no one here is ever responsable for anything.

Back to topic. During the weeks of waiting for parts I did a massive amount of research, watched many videos in languanges I'd never heard before, and learned quite a bit about the belts and pulleys. Once the parts arrived I slowly and carefully worked over the course of a week (much of that cleaning off an interesting mix of old diesel and engine oil and new volcanic ash).

And now it is running. With my foot heavily on the accelerator, it belched smoke for the first 1/2 kilometer and then ran quite nicely with nearly no smoke. I took it to get inspected later in the day and it passed the exhaust opacity test easily (0.41, while the allowable limit of the vehicle is 1.7 nanokiloblobs/cubicfootmetersecond of air, or whatever the scale is).

But the turbo doesn't seem to be doing much at low rpms. It seems to be very down on power until around 3000rpms. It could be massive carbon build-up. I experienced that once before when I helped a young man move and we took his mother's diesel car. She never drove more than 20mph and rarely more than 1/2 mile. When we first started driving her car it would barely accelerate and wouldn't go more than 40mph on the highway (we had to take a 4 hours ferrry to another island to get to a highway). After 2 or 3 one-hour trips of holding the accelerator pegged to the floor it re-gained significant power and we could drive 75mph.

But in any case I want to understand the vaccum and turbo adjustments.

The Montero Sport was worked on by several mechanics, all proven painfully incompetent, and one clearly a gold-digger (brand new turbo, "remanufactured" injectors, a professionally rebuilt injector pump, new glow plugs, etc). Yet it still ran painfully badly because, wait for it . . . . the timing was off 2 teeth.

And it gets worse. Due to the front crankshaft bolt not being tightened by two different "mechanics", almost everything in front of the oil pump was damaged beyond repair. The first replaced the Harmonic dampener and it lasted a few hundred kilometers max due to the front crankshaft bolt not being tightened by the second and everything banging around.

From now on I'm going to replace the crankshaft bolt after every other time of removing it.

I put on the following new parts:
• crank sprocket for the balancer belt (and new balancer belt)
• "flange" wheel (that stamped sheet metal part between the balance drive pulley and the timing drive pulley)
• crankshaft sprocket for the timing belt (with a new timing belt, of course)
• sensor trigger wheel (for the electronically-controlled later 4D56 and D4BH engines)
• crankshaft sensor (the old sensor was partially shattered from the sensor trigger wheel hitting it. Ouch! You can imagine how the car ran (off two teeth of timing and the crankshaft sensor bashed to bits)
• dampener pulley, new washer, and new bolt
• one more thing I can't remember.

It probably helped a little that I timed it correctly.

So now I want to see if I can understand the vacuum and turbo circuitry. There is a vacuum actuator that pulls on a rod, which moves the wastegate lever on the outside of the turbo and there are two stop screws for the wastegate lever. How do I adjust those wastegate stop screws? There are more vacuum lines on this engine than the older 4D56 and D4BF engines (and the engagement of the front axles for 4WD are also vacuum-driven, thus adding more solenoids and lines). Based on the quality of work done previously on this vehicle I must assume that the vacuum lines or the adjustments for the turbo were done wrong.

Can anyone help me understand those systems or point me into a direction to understand?

Thanks,
Dave
 
Last edited:
This site has some discussion on Montero Sport vacuum issues, and a diagram (PDF file) of the vacuum system (not sure if it directly applies to your vehicle though)




You'll probably get some answers here from people more knowledgeable than I am, but in the meantime, if you do some searches on this forum for 'waste gate', those threads might give some insight into turbo adjustments.
 
Vacuum lines have nothing to do with the turbo. It sounds like you are describing the wastegate actuator which opens a valve to release boost pressure when it gets to a certain level... it's a pressure line, not vacuum.
 
Hi. Yes, I was describing two separate things, and didn't do a good job.

The wastegate actuator seems to have two screws for stops. I don't know how to "set" them.

And I have vaccum lines all over, with who-knows how many solenoids, sensors, and actuators. At one point one solenoid was clicking constantly on and off, like 10 times a second. That was fixed with one new vacuum hose. Based on everything else I've seen done by the previous "mechanics", until proven otherwise, I going to assume that the vacuum lines are incorrectly connected.
 
Last edited:
And I've looked at the posts in the link sent by Sputnik. Even if they are not applicable exactly to my vehicles I would like to understand HOW and why all the vaccum stuff works.
 
Hi All,

After reading a ton on this forum I joined a little while ago. I own two vehicles, neither a Delica but both with similar engines: see signature.

Well, the bottom line is that I want to understand how the vacuum lines work on the 2003 Mitsubishi Montero Sport. Does anyone have a vacuum diagram for the later engines and can actually explain it to me? While I found countless videos of videos to replace the timing belt in languages I didn't understand, I couldn't find anything on the internet aobut the vacuum lines or adjusting the turbo on our engines.

Backstory (if you can stomach to read it):
I bought the Mitsubishi Montero Sport (also called Shogun Sport in the UK and Pajero Sport in most of the rest of the world) with the engine running so badly that it would have been better if it hadn't run. The previous owners suffered from repeated scams and incompetence and out of emotional desperation sold it to me just so they wouldn't have to think about it any more. A sad and very real aspect of living in "paradise".

After initially diagnosing it I decided to buy quite a few parts from a UK supplier who specialises (sic) in Mitsubishi 4D56 and similar engines. I'm located in the Canary Islands and here you will pay 2 to 4 times what things cost in other places and it will be accompanied by absolute incompetence, free, at no charge. To upgrade to only mild incompetence costs even more. The people from the company in the UK were pleasant, competent, and their prices were good. They shipped out my parts quickly but, of course, between the spanish arm of fedex and a canary island company responsable for the customs paperwork intot he canary islands, the canary island customs agent left my documents sit unattended for 10 days until the shipper was about to return my shipment. And who would have had to pay for shipping three ways? Me, because no one here is ever responsable for anything.

Back to topic. During the weeks of waiting for parts I did a massive amount of research, watched videos in languanges I'd never heard before, and learned quite a bit. Once the parts arrived I slowly and carefully worked over the course of a week (much of that cleaning off an interesting mix of old diesel and engine oil and new volcanic ash).

And now it is running. It belched smoke for the first 1/2 kilometer (with my foot heavily on the accelerator) and then ran quite nicely with nearly no smoke. I took it to get inspected later in the day and it passed the exhaust opacity test easily (0.41, while the allowable limit of the vehicle is 1.7 nanokiloblobs/cubicfootmetersecond of air, or whatever the scale is).

But the turbo doesn't seem to be doing much at low rpms. It seems to be down on power at low rpms. It could be massive carbon build-up. I experienced that once before when I helped a young man move and we took his mother's diesel car. She never drove more than 20mph and rarely more than 1/2 mile. When we took it initially it would barely accelerate and wouldn't go more than 40mph on the highway. After 2 hours of holding the accelerator pegged to the floor it re-gained significant power and we could drive 75mph.

But in any case I want to understand the vaccum and turbo adjustments.

The Montero was worked on by several mechanics, all proven painfully incompetent, and one clearly a gold-digger (brand new turbo, "remanufactured" injectors, a professionally rebuilt injector pump, new glow plugs, etc). Yet it still ran painfully badly because, wait for it . . . . the timing was off 2 teeth.

And it gets worse. Due to the front crankshaft bolt not being tightened by two different mechanics, almost everything in front of the oil pump was damaged beyond repair. The first "mechanic" replaced the Harmonic dampener and it lasted a few hundred kilometers max due to the front crankshaft bolt not being tightened and everything banging around.

From now on I'm going to replace the crankshaft bolt after every other time of removing it.

I put on the following new parts:
• crank sprocket for the balancer belt (and new balancer belt)
• "flange" wheel (that stamped sheet metal part between the balance drive pulley and the timing drive pulley)
• crankshaft sprocket for the timing belt (with a new timing belt, of course)
• sensor trigger wheel (for the electronically-controlled later 4D56 and D4BH engines)
• crankshaft sensor (the old sensor was partially shattered from the sensor trigger wheel hitting it. Ouch! You can imagine how the car ran (off two teeth of timing and the crankshaft sensor bashed to bits)
• dampener pulley, new washer, and new bolt
• one more thing I can't remember.

It probably helped a little that I timed it correctly.

So now I want to see if I can understand the vacuum and turbo circuitry. There is a vacuum actuated rod that actuates a lever on the outside of the turbo and it has two screws for stops. How do I adjust those? There are more vacuum lines on this engine than the older 4D56 and D4BF engines. Based on the quality of work done previously on this vehicle I'm assuming that the vacuum lines or the adjustments for the turbo are done wrong.

Can anyone help me understand those systems or point me into a direction to understand?

Thanks,
Dave
This was a really fun read, thank you for being so transparent. I am sorry you have so much frustration to deal with in the realm of incompetence.
 
Unfortunately, I'm not at all familiar with the later 3.2L Pajero...
I suspect it is quite similar to the 2.8L Delica SpaceGear with some of the vacuum lines operating the 4x4 system.
 
An update.

The wastegate on the turbo on my 2.5 liter 4D56TCI 2003 Mitsubishi Montero Sport engine IS vacuum operated, not pressure operated. I looked at a friend's slightly older Hyundai Galloper, which is parked next to my Mitsubishi and the wastegate actuator on his D4BF was pressure operated, like the older Delicas. And the D4BH engine in my Terracan also more resembles the older 4D56 engines but that it has drive-by-wire electronically-triggered injection pump.

1652981931500.png

On the Mitsubishi Sport I spent a few hours tracing and documenting all the little vacuum and pressure lines on the engine and what they were connected to (solenoids, sensors and actuators). I plan to draw out a diagram to see if I can make sense of it. Then I looked at the vacuum and pressure lines in the D4BH in my Terracan. Totally different, way simplier; they were much like the Galloper and what I've seen in your Delicas. The D4BH in my Terracan is WAY simplier, and I think very similar to the older mitsubishi 4D56 and D4BF engines, but with a drive-by-wire injection pump. Interestingly, the injection pumps on both my vehicles are drive-by-wire but in appearance are quite different

I recognize that I may have to go to a different forum for help understanding my engine's vacuum system. But I've read so much on this forum that I decided to join this one, and figured I'd post here.

Where I live there are quite a few old Delicas and huge numbers of the Hyundai equivalents. H1s are on every street.

I walked by an older Delica this morning while walking to my car, so I took a picture of it for you all. Here you go!

1652981908600.png
 
Last edited:
Very few wastegate actuators are vacuum controlled. If it has a VGT unit, that can be vacuum controlled. And those can have set screws to control the opening and closing of the VGT.

So with the electronic injection pump, we have to remember that it is only going to do what the ECM tells it to do. So we need to make sure that the ECM gets the correct information to do its job. We need to look at things like the MAP sensor. That is Manifold Absolut Pressure. (Turbo Boost). If you have a scan tool it will help to see what the ECM is seeing. You may want to pull the MAP sensor out and see if it is clean. If it gets plugged with carbon then it may not be telling the ECM that the boost is starting to come up. That is a big portion of the way the ECM adds fuel to make more boost and then more power.
 
Top