Engine Life - Longevity L300 / Turbo Diesel

caleb

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Hello!

I have been searching through the forums here and have not come across any posts regarding engine life on your Delicas, I would be happy if someone knows of a detailed thread. I am interested in purchasing an Exceed or a Chamonix, each has their own benefits from what I can tell. What I am wondering is, what sort of engine life are you experiencing? How many Miles or Kilometers do you have on yours?

Thanks,

-Caleb
 
I rarely see diesel L300s over 400,000km, but 250-350,000km is easily achievable if it does long runs and the oil's been changed every 5000km like it's supposed to. Then again a van with 400,000km is probably pretty worn out all over, so the lack of high mileage diesels might not be entirely due to engine failure.

My own engine at 270,000km was a bit tired. It was tuned to make more power than usual, but the cost was higher EGTs and a constant battle with oil leaks. In the end a tuned new D4BF made slightly more power, but with much lower exhaust temperatures and no oil leaks (so far).
 
I rarely see diesel L300s over 400,000km, but 250-350,000km is easily achievable if it does long runs and the oil's been changed every 5000km like it's supposed to. Then again a van with 400,000km is probably pretty worn out all over, so the lack of high mileage diesels might not be entirely due to engine failure.

My own engine at 270,000km was a bit tired. It was tuned to make more power than usual, but the cost was higher EGTs and a constant battle with oil leaks. In the end a tuned new D4BF made slightly more power, but with much lower exhaust temperatures and no oil leaks (so far).
Thanks, exactly what I am wondering Growlerbearnz. Since I have yet to drive one, how would you identify a tired engine vs one that has some pep in it's step. I am somewhat mechanically inclined, not so familiar with these diesels, from what I understand they are not very fast in this configuration to begin with? Is there anything I might be able to do or take notice of in a test drive?
 
Any engine will need maintenance and replacement of parts, so to me "worn out" means worn bores and crankshaft bearings.

Unless you've driven a few of these vans it's unlikely you'd know if the engine was good or not just by driving it. With a stock tuned engine they're slow, but how slow is slow? Hauling a 4400lb brick with only 85hp is never going to be fast.

A compression test would be the best way to detect bore wear. At sea level* a new engine has 440psi, the lower limit is 320psi, with no more than 20psi difference between any two cylinders. *(If you're above sea level then adjust the pressure to suit, as we eventually figured out in this thread. In my defence New Zealand doesn't have altitude, so I have no experience with it.)

Without a compression test, oil leaks are the main tell of a tired engine: 4D56's are heavy breathers, with lots of blowby. As the bores wear the blowby becomes excessive, overcomes the breather and pressurises the crankcase, which leads to oil leaks. That said, these engines can be leaky: there's a rubber half-moon bung at the back of the head that hardens with age, and a side cover by the injection pump that leaks when its gasket hardens, and leaks even more if someone over-torques the bolts in an attempt to stop the original leak. Front and rear main seals are the ones to pay attention to.

There's a "new delica" mechanical checklist here which will give you an idea of things to look out for, and things to consider replacing as preventative maintenance. It might be a bit overboard. I'm conservative/cautious when I buy a vehicle; I like to change all the fluids and filters, replace *everything* rubber (coolant, oil feeds, brake lines, suspension bushes, sometimes even drivetrain mounts), and if the coolant is dirty I'll replace the radiator too. Because I do not trust anyone else to maintain an engine properly.
 
Any engine will need maintenance and replacement of parts, so to me "worn out" means worn bores and crankshaft bearings.

Unless you've driven a few of these vans it's unlikely you'd know if the engine was good or not just by driving it. With a stock tuned engine they're slow, but how slow is slow? Hauling a 4400lb brick with only 85hp is never going to be fast.

A compression test would be the best way to detect bore wear. At sea level* a new engine has 440psi, the lower limit is 320psi, with no more than 20psi difference between any two cylinders. *(If you're above sea level then adjust the pressure to suit, as we eventually figured out in this thread. In my defence New Zealand doesn't have altitude, so I have no experience with it.)

Without a compression test, oil leaks are the main tell of a tired engine: 4D56's are heavy breathers, with lots of blowby. As the bores wear the blowby becomes excessive, overcomes the breather and pressurises the crankcase, which leads to oil leaks. That said, these engines can be leaky: there's a rubber half-moon bung at the back of the head that hardens with age, and a side cover by the injection pump that leaks when its gasket hardens, and leaks even more if someone over-torques the bolts in an attempt to stop the original leak. Front and rear main seals are the ones to pay attention to.

There's a "new delica" mechanical checklist here which will give you an idea of things to look out for, and things to consider replacing as preventative maintenance. It might be a bit overboard. I'm conservative/cautious when I buy a vehicle; I like to change all the fluids and filters, replace *everything* rubber (coolant, oil feeds, brake lines, suspension bushes, sometimes even drivetrain mounts), and if the coolant is dirty I'll replace the radiator too. Because I do not trust anyone else to maintain an engine properly.
Thank you Growlerbearnz! This is all so very helpful, Appreciate your perspective from the land of the long white cloud too!!
 
Congratulations! That one looks very clean/ I'm guessing it's around '96?

And yes, they are a hoot to drive. Mine always brings a smile to my face :)
 
Congratulations! That one looks very clean/ I'm guessing it's around '96?

And yes, they are a hoot to drive. Mine always brings a smile to my face :)
Thanks! It's a 94' excited to get started but overwhelmed with all there is to learn. Seems to run well so far being ~90k miles when I picked it up. Thanks for all of your super tips it really helped me to be more thorough in looking it over.
 
Do you think some of the Japanese imports you get in the states have been clocked? They all seem to have such low mileage. I'm in Taiwan, and I've seen quite a few Delis with over 350,000km. Some have 500k...
 
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