Maine Canceling Delica Registration

Do the importers in the US do this ?
Nope. They are imported under the federal law that states the vehicles are exempt (so legal to import/own). Hell, you don't even have to modify the headlights for LHD here (which is pretty stupid IMO).
There is no certificate of conformity (for FMVSS) you can get from Mitsubishi, and Mitsubishi won't give you one (letter/etc) if you ask them.
 
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Nope. They are imported under the federal law that states the vehicles are exempt (so legal to import/own). There is no certificate of conformity (for FMVSS) you can get from Mitsubishi, and Mitsubishi won't give you one (letter/etc) if you ask them to.

Hell, you don't even have to modify the headlights for LHD here (which is pretty stupid IMO).
That's insane. Each import has to go through a thorough OOP inspection with LHD headlights, etc... prior to even registering it. Licensing is after. Importers get the manufacture cert from Mitsubishi in Japan. North American Mitsu dealers won't have access to that.
 
That's insane. Each import has to go through a thorough OOP inspection with LHD headlights, etc... prior to even registering it. Licensing is after. Importers get the manufacture cert from Mitsubishi in Japan. North American Mitsu dealers won't have access to that.
I assume the manufacturer cert states what it does have/meet (at least in relation to Japanese/sold markets); and the importers then have to make whatever changes are required to add to that, in order to meet Canadian requirements (LHD headlights, DRL, etc).

Something like that IS actually an option here; it's how you can import a non-conforming/uncertified vehicle that is less than 25yrs old... but it is generally quite expensive from what little I know about it (I think you have to meet all current standards).
 
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I assume the manufacturer cert states what it does have/meet (at least in relation to Japanese/sold markets); and the importers then have to make whatever changes are required to add to that, in order to meet Canadian requirements (LHD headlights, DRL, etc).

Something like that IS actually an option here; it's how you can import a non-conforming vehicle that is less than 25yrs old... but it is generally quite expensive from what little I know about it (I think you have to meet all current standards).
At least people have the option to register in other states and legally drive in their home state. We don't have that luxury. That's a good loophole for many. Too bad for Maine. That's lost revenue for them.
 
At least people have the option to register in other states and legally drive in their home state. We don't have that luxury. That's a good loophole for many. Too bad for Maine. That's lost revenue for them.
Well, Maine (and most states) also require vehicles to be registered in-state if you are a legal resident (1yr residency for Maine). Many states require you to register a vehicle with them even if not a permanent resident (e.g. in Tennessee longer than 30 days). Most of the work arounds aren't technically legal...
 
got this today.


Good Morning Chris,
Yesterday we spoke with Bruce Scott and Randy Mckiel with the Maine State Police. After speaking with them the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and the Maine State Police’s decision not to register the Delicas stand. Because these vehicles do not meet the FMVSS and DOT crash testing we cannot allow them to be registered on Maine roads. This is federal law and we cannot bend this law or make exceptions for ANY vehicle that does not meet those specific safety standards. However, if the MCO states that it is for road use only and meets FMVSS or the sticker in the door jamb states it meets FMVSS we would be inclined to consider a registration given only those circumstances. I apologize and understand the frustration around this issue and if you would like to see this change in the future, please reach out to legislature to make a revision on this law.

Thank you for your understanding.

Respectfully,


Brittanee Guerette
Office Specialist I | Assistant to the Director
Vehicle Services Unit
Bureau of Motor Vehicles
101 Hospital Street|Augusta ME 04330
207-624-9083 | www.maine.gov/sos/bmv/
 
This is federal law and we cannot bend this law or make exceptions for ANY vehicle that does not meet those specific safety standards.
Of course this is wrong as well... the federal law does not apply to 25+yr old vehicles (but it's still their choice to apply it if they want).

So, unless they are banning all non-domestic market vehicles (that don't have FMVSS cert/NHTSA eligibility), then your only option is an inequity complaint.
 
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got this today.
It sounds like they may have gotten together to provide cohesive messaging. My reply from the media contact for the BMV was similar, despite it being from a different person. The logic seems to be this:

  • Maine does not register "off-road vehicles" for road use.
  • My contact stated "Maine law is clear in Title 29-A (which was just recently updated in LD 1433 Sections 1-8) on what off-road vehicles are, and that they cannot be classified as antique autos for on-road use."
  • It appears off-road vehicles are those that do not pass FMVSS or EPS regulations.
  • Therefore the Delica is an off-road vehicle because it was never tested and therefore can't pass.
This would lead me to believe there are a lot of off-road vehicles in Maine. In fact I asked my contact:

There are other makes and models registered in Maine that also do not comply with FMVSS and EPS, many of which are also Japanese imports (and are also not minitrucks). Can owners of these vehicles (regardless of country of origin) also expect Maine to cancel their registrations?

Their reply: "Any vehicle found to be mistakenly registered would receive a similar letter to the ones sent out recently by the Bureau of Motor Vehicles."

I don't know how the Delica got on the BMV's radar. But it seems anyone owning a car brought in under the 25-year import rule and who has successfully registered their vehicle with the State of Maine is now potentially at risk for having their registration canceled.

Is this the state's right? It sounds like it. Could other states adapt this stance? You better believe it.
 
Is this the state's right? It sounds like it. Could other states adapt this stance? You better believe it.
TBH, I think the 25yr import waiver is a bit too lax; especially if the vehicle is registered in a state that has zero (or near zero) safety inspection requirements. How many are driving with original RHD headlights (which are terrible and cannot be adjusted correctly)?

And I think more states will refuse to register vehicles imported under the exclusion; for the environmental concerns if nothing else (or require compliance like CA does).
 
After all is said and I done I think it was just handled poorly with no equity or common sense justification.

3 weeks to get the vehicle off the road? What about people that are using it as a primary driving vehicle? We are just supposed to finance something new (oh and by the way your vehicle can't be sold so hope you have cash on hand).

Plus all the confusion around minitruck - which they now claim is a mistake (below). pfft.



On Jul 9, 2021, at 10:50 AM, Registrations <Registrations@maine.gov> wrote:

We are aware that the delicas are not mini trucks. This decision has nothing to do with the size of the vehicle. We are not classifying it as a mini truck, the letter that was sent stated mini truck in error, and I apologize for the misunderstanding. However, we are stating that like the mini trucks it does not pass the FMVSS ( Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) There was no talk of similar vehicles just about the delicas and the registration and inspection requirements. If the vehicle met FMVSS you would not have to wait 25 years for importation. If you want more clarification please feel free to reach out to Bruce Scott and he can explain it further. These vehicles cannot pass a Maine inspection, FMVSS, DOT crash testing or emissions. I would be more than happy to look at your MCO or a photo of the sticker in the door jamb if there is one.
And correct, at this time we cannot give an extension.

Respectfully,
 
3 weeks to get the vehicle off the road? What about people that are using it as a primary driving vehicle? We are just supposed to finance something new (oh and by the way your vehicle can't be sold so hope you have cash on hand).
Yeah, that does suck hard...
 
And what about every other JDM or Euro vehicle in Maine brought in over the 25-year import rule? Shouldn't they all be contacted, you know, in the name of safety?

And what about that old '65 Ford Mustang? That can't possibly be safe anymore. I mean, FMVSS and EPA testing has changed a lot since the '60s. Maybe those should be taken off the road. [/sarcasm]

But honestly, where does this end? Or is this just going to be mini trucks and Delicas only?
 
My neighbor has a legally registered '88 Escort...you'd be safer driving around in a pepsi can.

Exactly Crankshaft, Euro....shit will get real when they start pulling the imported Bentley registrations.
 
I wonder what the trigger was for Delicas to be singled out? I mean, how many Delicas could there possibly be in Maine?
The trigger was one MDOC member trying to get an inspection done, I believe at a shop they hadn't used before. The shop didn't understand the vehicle or VIN or something, so they called the Maine State Police to come tell them how to proceed. The LEO who arrived told the shop that the vehicle wasn't legal and not to inspect. About a week later, the owner got his Letter. And I think it was 4-5 weeks after that we started getting ours. (Story might not be 100% accurate but is a summation of the details I remember seeing.) That's how the police got involved and why they are part of my FOAA request from the state. And I believe someone (the officer) who was not qualified to make a determination for the BMV kicked off a decision path that they are scrambling to justify, probably because of pride, hubris and arrogance. My opinion there.
 
And what about every other JDM or Euro vehicle in Maine brought in over the 25-year import rule? Shouldn't they all be contacted, you know, in the name of safety?
There will probably be a bunch of vehicles not able to get their annual inspections renewed...

My neighbor has a legally registered '88 Escort...you'd be safer driving around in a pepsi can.
And both would be safer than an L300... ;)
 
FYI we brought this to the attention of Autoblog, and they also have looked into this with similar results and nearly identical answers to what I heard.

 
FYI we brought this to the attention of Autoblog, and they also have looked into this with similar results and nearly identical answers to what I heard.

Good, the more exposure the better.

There are several Land Rover clubs in Maine. Probably quite a few imported, RHD, over 25 year old Defenders and Series Land Rovers rumbling around that are a perfect fit for the BMV 'off-road' description.

It's going to take the concerted effort of imported car enthusiasts of all stripes to resist what Maine is doing (or a lot of people are going to have vehicles they can't drive or sell in Maine.)
 
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