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Yep. My van is down at CEE in Santa Ana getting CA emissions done. It was $4,800 and a 10 to 12 week wait. Mine has been down there for the past 7 weeks.

Brian
 
they need to go through the exhaust system and ads a catalytic converter and any other necessary parts etc....They say it's a lot of work. After they finish the work, they take it a CA certification board for approval. Then they place a CA compliant sticker on the vehicle. Once you have the sticker you can get it registered. Huge pain both in time and $. They have done about 5 Delicas
 
@BrianQ they put a cat on it? will you have to smog it every 2 years for reg now? not to be negative but that would defeat alot of the perks of a diesel delica to me

I should mention i have a CA legal delica
 
DustyDelica said:
The problem is that you imported from another country yourself. Youll notice almost all importers are actually based out of CA( i.e yotaimports, delicausa, vanlifenorthwest). So they can Register for that state.

the 25 year rule does apply but only if you were registering an out of state vehicle. not an import. Imports must meet the CARB standards. Thats the letter you got in the mail. I'm guessing when you went to register in WA you showed them your CA drivers license? The DMV applies the rules for whatever state you reside in. So unless you can show residence in another state youre going to have a tought time registering it there. I was going to do this with my delica to avoid the state sales tax.

My only suggestion would be to find some way to register it out of state then reregister it here. wether that means gifting it to a friend or whatever. The delica will never pass the CARB test to my knowledge.
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I just got referred to George and he is calling me back, no doubt to busy robbing other delica owners. The CHP said I need to get it tested to Calirfornia emissions of the time (I guess 1987) test or a letter saying it doesn't need one from the company. Is there anything I can say to get him just email me an A.O.K. ? I bought mine in Oregon where it had been registered and passed smog.
 
rjjiorle said:
I just got referred to George and he is calling me back, no doubt to busy robbing other delica owners. The CHP said I need to get it tested to Calirfornia emissions of the time (I guess 1987) test or a letter saying it doesn't need one from the company. Is there anything I can say to get him just email me an A.O.K. ? I bought mine in Oregon where it had been registered and passed smog.
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If you have a DIESEL delica, with an OR title(or any US state) and its 25 years old or older. you DONT need smog, and it DOESNT need to pass CARB. It sounds like CHP is refering you to the rule of direct imports.

Unfortunately you will probably have to hold the DMV and CHP's hand through the process. All you need is a US title, a manufacturer date. and a CHP VIN verification.
 
Thats the guy who makes the Delicas CA emissions compliant so it can pass the CARB test. You have to call the ARB, they refer you to the only person (private firm) in the state who can make them complaint. Everyone keeps asking if its an import, My mistake was saying at one point it was imported. California DMV let me pay the registration and gave it smog exempt status, but not official till the CHP verifies it.
 
rjjiorle said:
Thats the guy who makes the Delicas CA emissions compliant so it can pass the CARB test. You have to call the ARB, they refer you to the only person (private firm) in the state who can make them complaint. Everyone keeps asking if its an import, My mistake was saying at one point it was imported. California DMV let me pay the registration and gave it smog exempt status, but not official till the CHP verifies it.
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CHP verifies what?
 
Not where I live (Santa Barbara, Ca). I went to CHP for verification. They would not approve my van as it did not have a CA Emissions cert. sticker on the engine compartment. Diesel did not make a difference. I took my Van to Cee in Santa Anna. 5K later and 4 months, it is now a Ca emissions certified vehicle and approved for registration in Ca.
 
What Brian said, the CA emissions sticker is required on all vehicles trying to be registered in CA, some vehicles can get away without it but its at the discretion/ineptitude of the agent processing your vehicle at the DMV. Without the emission sticker it's not compliant with CARB https://www.arb.ca.gov/html/master_faqs/vehicle_faqs/greymarket_cars_faq.htm. This is the nuts and bolts of the laws. The Calfiornia Air Resource Board is independent of DMV so all the smog stuff doesn't matter. Without that sticker, the car isn't allowed to be registered without going through the CARB test. All cars produced for distribution in the US have a sticker put on in the factory that say whether the vehicle meets all 50 states emission standards or only 49 states (guess which state is not included). This is because California has a waiver from congress that allows them to set their own auto emissions, this article explains it a little bit better:

http://theconversation.com/why-cali...missions-standards-5-questions-answered-94379
 
rjjiorle said:
What Brian said, the CA emissions sticker is required on all vehicles trying to be registered in CA, some vehicles can get away without it but its at the discretion/ineptitude of the agent processing your vehicle at the DMV. Without the emission sticker it's not compliant with CARB https://www.arb.ca.gov/html/master_faqs/vehicle_faqs/greymarket_cars_faq.htm. This is the nuts and bolts of the laws. The Calfiornia Air Resource Board is independent of DMV so all the smog stuff doesn't matter. Without that sticker, the car isn't allowed to be registered without going through the CARB test. All cars produced for distribution in the US have a sticker put on in the factory that say whether the vehicle meets all 50 states emission standards or only 49 states (guess which state is not included). This is because California has a waiver from congress that allows them to set their own auto emissions, this article explains it a little bit better:

http://theconversation.com/why-cali...missions-standards-5-questions-answered-94379
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This is still only for direct imports

"Unlike California's basic Smog Check program, the Direct Import program does not have exemptions other than the original 1967 model year and older exclusion outlined above. And as a final note, these regulations only apply to passenger cars and light-duty trucks. Motorcycles and heavy-duty engines (used in trucks and buses) are required to comply with CA or USEPA from the date of manufacturer, no after-the-fact modification is permitted for products first sold outside the US market."

A delica with title from another state is not a direct import
 
DustyDelica said:
This is still only for direct imports

"Unlike California's basic Smog Check program, the Direct Import program does not have exemptions other than the original 1967 model year and older exclusion outlined above. And as a final note, these regulations only apply to passenger cars and light-duty trucks. Motorcycles and heavy-duty engines (used in trucks and buses) are required to comply with CA or USEPA from the date of manufacturer, no after-the-fact modification is permitted for products first sold outside the US market."

A delica with title from another state is not a direct import
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Do you have a source, I would like anything to get out of the CARB test cycle. I cannot get my Delica register in California until I complete the CARB test and modification.

from CARB website

"Vehicle first sold or intended for sale by their manufacturers for sale outside of the United States are called NON-USA or "Grey Market" cars and typically not able to be used or registered in California. The following information lists the requirements to register a NON-USA vehicle in California and is based on the model year of the vehicle:"

To the best of my understanding

CARB classifies the delica as a grey market vehicle. My Delica was imported in 2011/2012 and has been registered in Oregon, where it passed smog. It did not matter in California. California law trumps Federal EPA law in this situation, since CA has the exemption from the EPA and is allowed to set their own standards. This is the main reason why the rolling back of the Obama car standard emissions/fuel economy hit such a snag. This makes not only grey market vehicles not compliant with CARB, but also cars produced for domestic sales in the US with out a CARB compliant sticker(49 state car) or a car that has been modified for enhanced performance,without using CARB compliant parts. They are suppose to check during smog to see if the car has been modified with non-CARB compliant parts, if so the car can lose its registration, despite being CARB compliant with stock parts. California state law requires all vehicles regardless of origin to meet specific test group or emission control systems, compliant with what is set by the California Air Resources Board.
 
Dont know what to tell you. I didnt spend more than 45 min at DMV and CHP to get legal. I helped 4 or 5 other people through instagram finish the process with their delicas or HiAce's.

It might be too late for you if youve been flagged to go to CARB, like being sent to the referee after a failed smog. Not sure how that goes. I basically strong armed DMV telling them I knew I was legal and I went in there with all the facts. Guys at CHP were cool and said theyve seen a few imports and it was no problem.

If you want to get sketchy maybe find a CA compliant sticker to slap on? or open a PO box in another state if you dont mind your ID having an out of state address. dont know
 
I do know that if i had to spend 4K+ to get CARB legal on a delica then I would be looking at a different vehicle. It wouldnt be worth it anymore
 
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