Intrepidor
Active Member
Do you know if this was the cost of engine + labor, or just labor?
Purchasing a new engine
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Do you know if this was the cost of engine + labor, or just labor?
Kyre
Active Member
That’s most likely just the engine cost. The shop I take mine to here in SF for engine related work told me they just put one of the new Hyundai engines in a customers van and charged $1600 labor. The engine was delivered to them from the owner but I have no info on who they are or where they got it.
Looking at the paperwork of the previous/previous owner from 3 years ago...
- 1 - Engine d4BF - $4,449 CAD
- 15 hours @ $75 an hour to remove/install engine, move oil pan, modify wiring to injection pump, starter, install new exhaust - $1,125 CAD
Intrepidor
Active Member
Wow. I mean, even if the engine cost $4500 delivered and $1600 for installation that's still really good. When we converted our aircooled Westfalia to a Subaru 2.5, the engine alone was over $6k, and it was already four years old! Labor was... quite a bit more
Aside from being brand new, do these also have higher HP, or is it about the same?
TukHollow
Member
6 months later and our D4BF arrived from Hyundai directly. I was able to email the sales director directly from their website and to make a long story short, we were able to import the engine ourselves. We began the order in late April and the engine shipped mid May and arrived in Seattle last week. There was a little bit of paperwork that had to go back and forth during the customs entry process but everyone involved was super helpful.
MitsuWrench78
New Member
Can you elaborate on the paper work? I am just getting started on an engine order and want to have everything ready when it arrives.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.
TukHollow
Member
The sales director from Hyundai was SUPER helpful throughout the whole process. It was a lot of email exchanges before any paperwork was printed/completed/scanned. Once you clarify your order you’ll have to do a wire transfer through your bank. The majority of the paperwork was through the second phase when it came through US customs. I just asked questions on any thing I didn’t understand and the agent I worked with was prompt to provide information/direction. I’d recommend creating a file from all the documentation you received from Hyundai cause (if I remember correctly) you’ll want to send some of it to US customs (which someone contacted me to let me know my order was en route) and you’ll need piece of that information to complete forms from US customs. It was about $600 for freight and fees. It’s pretty much a step by step process and I didn’t feel like I had to prepare much before hand. Good luck! I ordered lots of other additional car parts through amayama, mega-zip, eBay, amazon and ordered a radiator from DelicaWorks Inc (through Facebook). As for us, our last order arrived this week so now it’s time to get our girl back up and running!
MitsuWrench78
New Member
Thanks for the great info! I have a few more questions if you have time,
Did you order the engine from Hyundai Power plaza Company like the others here, thats who I have been talking to. Did you bother getting the emission info from them? seems like its kind of pointless as the engine comes in under exemption? But I know from importing my Delica my self it pays to have as many forms and info as possible just in case they ask. I had so much paper work for that import and customs looked at almost none of it!
Good luck on getting your rig going again!
TukHollow
Member
We did order directly from Hyundai Power Plaza Co and we did not get any emission info/paperwork from them. Good luck!
Shamus
Active Member
Wondering how the swap went for you? I'm looking into this engine replacement myself, just want to say thanks for all the informative post y'all.
got my 93 highroof sitting at Rising Sun in BC, I had them replace the top end in June, 115 days later the van broke down on me on the road trip I had the work in June done for. Being told the bottom end, the engine block is worn out, feeling like a sucker for not having them do this engine swap for me then instead of now.
got my 93 highroof sitting at Rising Sun in BC, I had them replace the top end in June, 115 days later the van broke down on me on the road trip I had the work in June done for. Being told the bottom end, the engine block is worn out, feeling like a sucker for not having them do this engine swap for me then instead of now.
ccmickelson
Well-Known Member
If you're asking me, it went quite well thanks to the invaluable help of Growlerbearnz. I did a thread on my install here: http://delicaforum.com/index.php?threads/d4bf-engine-swap.1190/page-3#post-9213
Andy
Member
I love this forum, these voltages are the exact specs I have been searching for this week to see if I can put in some AGM batteries or if I will cook them! Score!
Xplormor Offroad
Active Member
OM 606 with a mechanical FP. Not saying its a easy swap.
For anyone arriving now to this thread, we will start having D4BFs in stock again in 4-6 months. For newcomers finding this thread, we are the same people who run DelicaForum.com and arranged the previous group buys.
Hyundai D4BF for Delica L300 Engine Replacement
Hyundai D4BF for Delica L300 Engine Replacement
The Tick
Well-Known Member
Just a heads up, D4BF replacement engines are a roll of the dice, may be good May be bad. If you are going with a shop, make sure they offer some kind of warranty. I highly recommend having the original 4D56 rebuilt, you will have a much stronger finished product. Just my opinion.
In general, the D4BF is just not the quality of the original 4D56T, Hyundai and Mitsubishi definitely make different quality products. That said, a brand new Hyundai Diesel is going to be more reliable than 30 year old Mitsubishi engine. We've installed around 30+ D4BFs and all of our customers have been happy with the swap. We did have a few engines that were missing a gasket which caused leaks, Hyundai did in those cases warranty those and issue a corrective action.
That said, we've definitely learned a lot of places do not know how to perform the swap correctly, and we've had to fix a fair number of mistakes from other shops.
The Tick
Well-Known Member
Generally from what I have seen, the D4BF block castings are of a much lower quality than the original 4D56. The original bottom ends of the 4d56 are more than up to the task of a good rebuild. Anyway my real point is if you get a new Hyundai engine installed from somewhere, make sure it has a warranty, if you import one yourself or buy one to install make sure the seller is offering a warranty.
speedyquest
Well-Known Member
@Jgrant0553 - Not to start an argument, but instead as a way to spreading accurate and useful information, what have you seen specifically that has you believing the quality of the material used is lower quality?
Outside of that, in general it doesn't matter how good the quality is on your parts, if they aren't installed and maintained properly you will have failures.
Outside of that, in general it doesn't matter how good the quality is on your parts, if they aren't installed and maintained properly you will have failures.